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I was wondering how many people have

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heard of the green flash alright good

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it's an atmospheric phenomenon we're

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just at certain places at certain times

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certain atmospheric conditions just at

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the moment when the Sun is just about

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doesn't disappear over the horizon

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there's this brilliant green flash it's

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it's not a visual effect it's actually

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physical and so that phenomenon reminded

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me of what I'm going to talk about today

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which I call the brain flash which I

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learned about at the Tucson conference

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of the consciousness studies group in

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Arizona in April of 2014 so I'm going to

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approach this by using a model of

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scientific discovery based on the work

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of Michael Polanyi and it's it's

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actually fairly obvious you start with

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observations use the intuitive heuristic

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part of you begins to sense that there's

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a pattern there and you you then get a

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feeling that there's actually some

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potential there some depth some

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juiciness you know the feeling and so

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then then you're hooked and you have to

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pursue it so you develop a hypothesis

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and once you get your hypothesis you

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begin to explore the logical extensions

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of that hypothesis and if they're

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plausible you then think about the the

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implications of the hypothesis to the

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paradigm to the dominant paradigm and

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then hopefully in that process you're

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beginning your validation through

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empirical memes or whatever so I wanted

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to imply apply that just to give you

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examples of that in in the case of

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Galileo his hypothesis was a

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heliocentric cosmos the logical

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extension the stars are other Suns big

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big big step

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not justified by empirical data but but

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you know later was and the implication

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for the paradigm which obviously almost

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got him burnt at the stake the cosmos is

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we are not central to it and Genesis is

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not scientifically exhaustive it's good

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but not exhaustive same same sort of a

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theory with Darwin hypothesis rather

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basic species evolved a random mutation

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natural selection the logical extension

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of that that life has evolved from

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simple forms to human species again a

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logical extension rather than something

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forced by the data and the implications

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for the paradigm which we're still

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absorbing that all life is related that

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evolution accounts for all behavior that

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that that's a an insurgent part of the

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regnant paradigm and finally as an

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example Einstein the hypothesis is that

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the only universal constant is the ratio

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between space and time which is C the

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logical extension is energy and matter

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their relationship and finally the

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implication for the paradigm there's no

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absolute space in time and everything is

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relative

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which then which then leaks out from the

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scientific paradigm into the other

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paradigms and it creates relativism not

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blaming Einstein but so so there's that

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three-part approach now I'd like to

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apply that to observations done at the

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University of Michigan by a team and

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what they discovered I they discovered a

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surge of coherent and comprehensive

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brain activity right after cardiac

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arrest about 30 seconds into cardiac

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arrest when there was no heartbeat no

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respiration and immediately preceding

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flatline brain death there was intense

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activity in the theta area where REM

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takes place and and then bursting into

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surging into gamma hyperactivity in both

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rat and human models and so the question

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was we've got these we've got that data

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we see a pattern what what could it

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possibly mean the the key phrase here is

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coherence in other words it's not like

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the brain suddenly gets a signal that

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it's going to die and it goes crazy

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alright just it's collapsing or etc it's

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just the opposite it reaches a state of

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coherence and comprehension equal to or

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superior to what is experienced in

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normal consciousness the the team was

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led by hemo Jorge Nina and George my

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sure the it was reported in the I think

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the August issue of Proceedings of the

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National Academy of Science in fact at

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near death according to the authors of

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the study many known electrical

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signatures of consciousness exceeded

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levels found in the waking state

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suggesting that the brain is capable of

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well-organized electrical activity

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during the early stage of clinical death

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here's how they discovered that they

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were doing experiments on rats they had

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two dozen rats in cages they had them

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wired up all the time to EEG EKGs and

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pet shop one morning they came in and

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nine of the rats had died

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research and so one of them one of the

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researchers was just looking over the

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you know EKG and EEG to try to determine

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what might have happened and lo and

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behold there was the there were these

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surges in the EEG we were completely

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counterintuitive and so so they then I'm

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sorry to say they replicated the study

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inducing cardiac arrest and and there it

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was there it was then not not 20% but

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everybody so there are the lead

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researchers mature and Bohr Hina poor

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so this indicate this is the the actual

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abstract I'm not going to read it but

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demonstrate that the mammalian brain can

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albeit paradoxically generate neural

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correlates of heightened consciousness

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preceding processing at near death what

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to make of this high-frequency neuro

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physiological activity in the near-death

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state was highly organized and exceeded

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that found during wakefulness

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wakefulness these data provide a

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neuroscientific framework for explaining

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heightened conscious experience after

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cardiac and respiratory arrest so you

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see that now they've made a logical step

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away from just the data right now a

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different team four years earlier three

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was doing similar work on human beings

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and again in cardiac arrest

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had people wired to EEG which is unusual

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they read this report about the rats

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they immediately wrote and said hey what

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about us we're observing the same thing

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so now we have a continuum we have rats

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two humans and there's a logical

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extension that probably we could fill in

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the gaps that we would probably find it

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all along the line we don't know how far

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back it goes but we know it goes all the

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way up what to make of it so this is

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just a quick review of your brainwave

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info where we have Delta at the bottom

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Eureka moments etc so what we're talking

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about here is activity in two

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disconnected bands theta imaginative etc

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thereafter extreme activity and

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a period of it it really kicked this the

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representation of what they did not

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what's sort of a an explanation can we

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make out of this so again we have our

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hypothesis our logical extensions our

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paradigmatic implications and then

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obviously the process of validation one

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way or the other okay so here is the

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hypothesis of the team from Michigan

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we're going from data now to hypothesis

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aah-ha stems from brain activity if it

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should be identifiable in humans or

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animals even after this cessation of

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cerebral blood flow okay so now we have

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a neural basis for NDE within the frame

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of biological life what's the logical

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extension of that NDEs are pre-mortem

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and let's not say delusion so that's

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impolite let's say imaginative events

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therefore we can put in DES within the

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physical paradigm yeah we can now we can

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acknowledge them you know now that we

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have a way to do that okay so what are

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the implications for the paradigm there

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aren't any actually we've actually just

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confirmed the regnant paradigm and any

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animal ease is consistent with

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post-mortem survival can be accounted

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okay so there was a than a

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correspondence the most important part

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of which was from Bruce Grayson from

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that hypothesis the most important of

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insufficient for actual consciousness at

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during during that point so so therefore

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the implications of that is either NDE

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is happening outside the physical

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paradigm or it's not happening at all

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and we know it's happening so therefore

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you can see you can see why they needed

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to respond quite a way right away

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so the Michigan team then responded they

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said no you're wrong

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we have inter-cranial EEG so etc etc I

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won't go into all the details but they

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felt that they had refuted it however

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what they did not refute the point they

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did not refute was the basic hypothesis

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which is okay so this is where humans

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are having NDEs what about the rats

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what kind of Indies are they having you

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know and why would there be in DES and I

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and forget the PowerPoint my question

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was what is the plausible plausible

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function of this okay we have an answer

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for Indies which is the plausible

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function is that that maybe somebody is

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being revived and then they go back to

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the tribe and the tribe feels better

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about death so they can fight harder and

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adaptive in a group sense but again

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that's no answer for the rats and we

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parsimony which which is that things

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that are not adaptive in strong ways

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evolution but this hasn't been a

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eliminated and it's as strong as ever

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so so therefore it must have a function

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it it's not epic phenomenal in other

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words that's what that implies so if

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this is an adaptive trait and not an

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epiphenomena how is it inherited if it's

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happening at the moment of death how do

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you pass it on right so a rat or a human

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may reproduce prior to the brain flash

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but how can it be adaptive at the moment

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of death if it's not even relevant in

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group evolution so that leads us to back

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to our plan here and here's an alternate

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hypothesis the NDE explanation is set

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aside since it only applies to one of

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the species evidencing this brain

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Fleshman on that what I mean is not that

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NDE is set aside but rather that this

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use of NDE it's happening within this

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brief period that's set aside the brain

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flash has something to do with

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processing information we know that

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because that's what the brain does it's

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not chaotic it occurs at the last

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possible moment of living experience

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it's coherent and comprehensive so the

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hypothesis is that's consistent with all

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those factors that the brain flesh

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creates an impression of the state of

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the information in the brain at the last

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possible moment what would be the

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function the logical extension

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although the brain flesh is not adaptive

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for the dying

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animal or human it's adaptive for a

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subsequent animal or human and therefore

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the group it's known that the brain

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encodes and decodes information of many

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kinds it could then possibly encode the

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final brain state to be transferred to

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an unborn or newly born individual or to

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a collective unconscious the brain flash

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is another way by which information is

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passed from one generation to the next

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what are the implications for the

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paradigm number one the brain flash is a

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snapshot of cumulative impressions

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retained in the brain up to the last

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moment pre-mortem number two this

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hypothesis does not validate

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reincarnation after life or other

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post-mortem survival concepts it doesn't

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say anything about them but it does

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imply intergenerational transmission of

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next that individuals are part of a

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larger matrix of information and

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experience that can transcend physical

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limitations non-local so this is a list

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of all the different ways that

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information is passed from generation to

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okay I did that oh the the final the

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fourth and final parody implication for

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the paradigm is nothingness

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yes it doesn't happen that way that

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evolution operates in the entire

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intergenerational matrix in other words

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evolution is not just physical evolution

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is not just individuals and groups and

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species that it that if this evolved as

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a way of transmitting information in a

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way that's adaptive then evolution must

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involve more than just the physical

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they must extend into a non-physical

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area a non adaptive trait can be

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okay so I just wanted to show you this

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okay good alright thank you very much

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thank you thank you James Steve hi I got

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a teddy I have so many problems of this

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I hardly know where to begin let's just

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forget about the idea for the moment

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that the brain encodes and decodes

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information I think that's completely

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wrong but that's another topic I'm

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puzzled by the way you talk about Indies

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because among other things you leave out

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the vertical aspects of the area what

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you leave out the vertical aspects of

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the experience and I don't see how

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you've addressed that at all

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I don't I don't make any judgment about

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any ease all I say is that it's it's

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implausible that the NDE is happening in

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that period after cardiac arrest and

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before death but the whole thing about

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the evolutionary matrix I mean what's

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the function of the vertical aspect of

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an NDE well again I'm not saying

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anything about any that's I'm not saying

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anything about Indies I'm eliminating

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NDE from the conversation in other words

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you can say there are n des and they

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don't happen in the physical you know

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the physical frame then you can make an

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extension they must be happening outside

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the physical frame but I'm not making

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that because it's not really relevant to

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my talk we'll have to pursue this later

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I don't get that okay

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as far as encoding information the

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corpus callosum does nothing but encode

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and decode information that's the

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I'm a past president of international

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association for near-death studies for

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what I'm a past president of lions oh

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great yeah as such one of the liars

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answer or lots of letters and the point

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was I got many many letters that said I

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wasn't close to death but and they would

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describe the experiences

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like NDEs so I'm not convinced that

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unless there's something here this

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unique that says this is close to death

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experience also you're familiar with

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Evan Alexander I'm sorry this sound is

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so bad I'm just gonna do it I can't hear

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either it's a case with Evan Alexander

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oh sure sure point there is that of

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course he was in you know for like a

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week and and call my own experiencing

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these things going on we talk about

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something it's a unique well art and

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they can't explain it okay that's a

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valid point

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that's a point kind of kind of refer

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back to a similar comment I made

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yesterday about the brain activity as

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being measured by EEG if it's really a

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product of neuronal activity or if it's

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a product of a bio energetic field and

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I'll come back to how that's relevant

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but one possible way is that this is

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something that's very specific to the

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death process and therefore would be

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unique to NDE experience right but what

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about if it's perhaps something that's

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specific to the separation of the you

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could say astral body psycho soma

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whatever you want to call it that dis

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coincidence of the bodies and then they

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and the loosening of the energetic body

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during that process which is therefore

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read off by the EEG so I'm wondering if

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that if that hypothesis was true if this

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technique could be applied to looking at

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the neural signatures of the take off

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the lucid take off from an out-of-body

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experience so this makes sense so the

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problem with studying it will be ease

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and with neuro scientific methods is

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that the the temporal signature there's

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no way to say well whether they project

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it or not because there's no

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physiological way to detect that we know

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of whether the consciousness is local or

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non-local to the body right you know I'm

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talking about just not non-pathological

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an D condition I mean just an

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out-of-body experience its provoked by

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by will but if we could find some kind

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of clear energetic signature as read out

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by EEG this could be something that

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could

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then be used as a timestamp so that

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using other neuroscience methods even

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including fMRI we can start to look at

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like what's happening in the brain while

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the consciousness is you know non-local

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essentially yeah that's interesting

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hypothesis I guess my only question

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would be why does it require this

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incredible coherent comprehensive surge

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you know what's what's happening there

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right so just you know mind we're just a

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ton of you know examining this is

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completely theoretical but during the

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separation process there's a dis

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alignment of the bodies yeah you know if

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you're assuming that there is some

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energetic body that we are projected in

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during the NDE experience which is

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corroborated right what are the

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characteristics of that body it's not

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being mediated through a physical medium

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right and so equipment that's very

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sensitive to electrical signals like EEG

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might be able to pick up more of that

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energy because it's not filtered through

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this dense physical medium so in that

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separation of consciousness period where

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that lucid take off is actually

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occurring may not be something specific

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to death but specific to the

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malalignment or disalignment of the

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bodies right so in that case we don't

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have to look at just any easy experience

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we could look at like the more healthy

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lucid projection experience and see if

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that's a time signature interesting

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thank you Mark if you could keep it

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short we'll have your question last

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we're running late I'll try to keep it

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short here I just want to correct them

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sort of a misperception in terms of

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evolution in other words the every

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behavior is not necessarily

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evolutionarily optimal and the fact that

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these things occur doesn't mean that

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they have reproducible benefit this just

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could be a side effect of some of the

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other things that evolved as a part of

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other natural evolution processes so the

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idea that this every behavior every

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function I mean you talk to any

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orthopedic they'll tell you our knees

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are not optimally designed as an example

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you're sort of saying it could be a

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phenomenal

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No well that's how I meant by

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epiphenomena let's functionalists in a

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way what you're saying yeah that seems

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implausible to me but it's possible I I

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do think the fact that it replicates

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from species to species suggests that it

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has an important function possible thank